Friday 22 February 2013

The Tale Of A Bird That Couldn't Fly

So much for the bluebird of happiness.

Almost 5 years after the original release of 殻ノ少女, the story of Touko Kuchiki, a girl who wished to find her true self and ultimately to be free, finally comes to an end with the conclusion of 虚ノ少女. And yet, as if to reflect its title, the story has left me with a feeling of emptiness thanks to its abrupt and somewhat anticlimactic ending.

Since Innocent Grey insisted on pronouncing the names of both games as Kara no Shoujo, I will be referring to the second game as Kara no Shoujo 2 for the sake of clarity. With all things considered, the overarching story of the second game doesn't really have a very strong connection to its title. Indeed, the sole purpose of KnS 2 may very well be to bring closure on the fate of Touko. And by doing so, the game raises fresh questions that doubtless serve to pave the way for a sequel.

Thankfully (?) the rest of the game is nothing like this
Taking place two years after the original game, KnS 2 follows the private detective Reiji Tokisaka as he continues his search for Touko, who was kidnapped by the young writer and serial killer Shinji Mamiya. When a nurse is found dead in a grisly and bizarre manner, Reiji accepts the cocky superintendent Yaginuma's request to solve the case. He soon meets and enlists the help of Touji Aoki (from Cartagra) who provides him with useful information on the murder cases, as well as the whereabouts of Shinji.

Joining Reiji on his investigation is Tomoyuki Masaki, whom Reiji's sister Yukari saves from a suicide attempt. Sensing the link between Masaki and the cases, Reiji takes him in as an assistant to keep an eye on him. In the meantime, Yukari befriends her new classmate Yukiko Kayahara, a meek and mysterious girl who is troubled by recurring dreams of murders.

Masaki's true identify soon comes to light with the visit of his childhood friend Meguri Takamiya, who comes to Tokyo looking for Masaki's cousin and good friend Naori Kuroya. Reiji's investigation eventually leads him and Masaki back to the latter's hometown Hitogata, a secluded and traditional village in the snowy mountains of Toyama prefecture. Together with the hard-boiled Inspector Inui, they set out to confront and uncover dark secrets of the village once and for all.

その少女は、虚に支配されていた―。


Those who have picked up KnS 2 and expected something similar to the first game will probably be quite disappointed. Perhaps because it is a more original story than the first game, which borrows heavily from Mouryou no Hako and Jorougumo no Kotowari, the second installment of Kara no Shoujo feels rather different from its predecessor.

There's still the stunning art, the melodious music and the charming characters, but the atmosphere is a far cry from the madness and hopelessness that haunted the first game. Obsession and twisted love are ever present in Kara no Shoujo stories, but the tragedies in KnS 2 arise much less from genuinely disturbed and deranged minds. Unlike Tatsuhiko Kusaka and Shinji who have utterly lost touch with reality, the serial killer in the second game has a much more rationalized, albeit still twisted, motive. The contrast between the two games is clear, as KnS 2 is more restrained in its portrayal of murder and death scenes. Whereas Reiji failed to save most of the victims in the first title, he fares much better here and manages to prevent at least two deaths on separate occasions. One may argue that the emphasis of the second game isn't so much on the murder mysteries, but rather how people can come to terms with their past and move towards a better future.

Yukari may just be the best sister in recent memory
I may digress but Yukiko's role in the game is just too strange. Her shy personality does little to help the fact that her presence in the story is incredibly weak. For a supposed heroine, her story is largely trivial and her involvement in the main plot bears little to no real significance. Perhaps the writer has big plans for her in the sequel, though I fail to see how she is relevant other than the fact that she used to be a patient of Naori's.

Anyone who thought the first game suffered from poor pacing is in for a real treat. There's the lengthy Past arc which is awfully dull even by the usual standards of slice-of-life. Then there's the cute Yukari and her cute friends doing cute things. And then there's the notoriously slow game engine (fixed as of patch 1.01 I believe). Personally I find the frequent jumps between narrators a bit frustrating as well, because they often contribute nothing to the story and destroy what little sense of urgency there is.

Such issues however pale in comparison to the real problem with KnS 2 - its short and not so sweet true end. But I will touch on that much later.

冬子、ごめんな
From here onwards it's going to be full of spoilers, so good kids please go home now. Just know that despite the flaws in its writing and presentation, Kara no Shoujo 2 is definitely worth a read and there is absolutely no reason not to play it if you enjoyed the first game. 

久しぶりだね。
ずっとあなたに逢いたかった―

また逢えなくなるのは寂しいけど
ずっとそばにいるから―

もう、私は寂しくないから・・・・・・

Even though her role in the story leaves much to be desired, Yukiko is more or less the main heroine on the first playthrough. A pleasant but taciturn girl, Yukiko has difficulty socializing and spends most of her time alone. She is somewhat emotionally distant from her cheerful foster mother Fuyumi, who cares deeply for Yukiko but remains mostly unaware of the girl's personal troubles. Shortly after becoming friends with her classmates Yukari and Kohane Torii, Yukiko takes an interest in painting and joins the art club. She soon develops a strong attachment to Yukari, who likewise treasures their friendship. However, the reemergence of the religious cult Tenkeikai (a reformed Senrikyou from Cartagra) quickly puts Yukiko's peaceful life in jeopardy.

Unsettled by her deathly dreams, Yukiko seeks treatment from Naori at the Tenkeikai headquarters. It becomes clear that Yukiko suffers from borderline personality disorder, and the treatment is actually worsening her condition. As the story reaches its climax with her and Yukari's disappearance, Masaki investigates and finds Yukiko's diary, which recounts her dreams and reveals that she is the one who stabbed Kyouko Haduki, a café owner and Reiji's old friend (and a bit more). Yukiko's unstable self-image often culminates in a murderous frenzy that drives her to kill the people she admires and assimilate their traits. The reserved personality (and possibly the hairstyle) of hers is in fact copied from her late friend Mie, who was pushed off a bridge by Yukiko and crushed by an oncoming train. In one bad end, Yukiko kills Yukari and adopts perfectly the mannerisms of Reiji's beloved sister. She even cuts her hair later to look just like Yukari. Call me weird but it was kind of hot.

Further proof that it's okay when it's girl on girl
The second playthrough features additional scenes and dialogue changes, which are aimed at providing a better idea of what was going on exactly in the Past arc. So don't skip it when the game promotes you to.

Set in the Hitogata village before the Pacific War, the Past arc tells the love story of Ayato Hingami, the heir to a family business of pharmaceutical manufacturing, and Satsuki, a pretty girl in a pretty red kimono. Now add an unlucky childhood friend, a clingy younger sister and a best buddy who never gets anything. Put them through happy days of silly drama and seemingly everlasting peacefulness. And we have ourselves the perfect recipe for a harem show. 

If it were only that simple.

The Past arc is really about how the lives of a group of youth are ruined by their families' lust for wealth and power. In a story where everyone is related to everyone else, some people are just a little more related than the others.

The beginning of a love that wasn't meant to be
Had he known that Satsuki was actually his half aunt, Ayato would have probably thought twice before he made sweet love to her. Probably. But what truly doomed their relationship was the fact that the Satsuki (砂月) he had fallen in love with was really Ayako, the double for his fiancée and half sister Satsuki (皐月).

The illegitimate child of Ayato's grandfather Hideomi and cousin Saya, the quiet Ayako was burdened with the unholy task of committing murders in place of Satsuki. It was a tradition that every healthy Hinagami daughter was to be raised as a miko at the Shigusa shrine, and married back into the family later. All good. The problem was that the miko had a very specific duty - to dispose of those who became seriously ill due to the family's illegal clinical trials and disguise their deaths as a curse by the local deity. In her mother Saya's eyes, Ayako was nothing more than a sacrifice to protect the sanity of Satsuki, who Saya had an obsession with for being the former miko Rika's daughter.

Why is Saya such a bitch?
I think it's fair to say that Ayato's womanizing father would have done everyone a massive favour if he didn't sleep around so much. Most importantly, Rika wouldn't have killed Inspector Inui's sister out of deep jealousy or taken her own life. Which meant that there would have been much less reason for Saya to conceive Ayako, therefore saving everyone the trouble and grief. But we can't have nice things and that's why Saya is such a crazy bitch.

So we have Satsuki who was jealous of Ayako's intimate relationship with Ayato, and Ayako who was envious of Satsuki's status. It all went horribly wrong one fateful night when Satsuki tried to kill Ayako in a moment of madness, but ended up getting overpowered and strangled to death herself instead. The insufferable Saya decided that this was a wonderful opportunity to amputate Satsuki right in front of Ayako, and keep the severed limbs for collection. She then tied the limbless body to the torii and went about her usual business like nothing had happened. You so crazy Saya.

Ayako was soon hurried away to avoid the police. In Tokyo, She successfully gave birth to Ayato's daughter who she named after the late Satsuki. But things took a turn for the worse when she almost suffocated the baby, much like she did with the other Satsuki. Fearing for the child's safety, Ayako left Satsuki in the care of an orphanage and underwent personality adjustment with Doctor Rokushiki. Ayako was no more, in her place was the bold and friendly Fuyumi who would continue to be tortured by her past, but at least her murderous tendencies had been suppressed.

Distraught over Satsuki's passing, Ayato sought death on the WW2 battlefields but miraculously survived everything the war threw at him. He would come back to the village and resolve to find the truth behind Satsuki's death. While questioning Saya about the severed limbs that were hidden underground, her insolent attitude drove him over the edge and he finally put an end to her sad life. Quite easily too. Realizing what he had done, Ayato ran away to Tokyo and lived there for the next decade using the name of his fallen mate, Tomoyuki Masaki.

Should've just gone for a ménages à trois instead
Finally we get to the bittersweet true end, which concludes Reiji's search for Touko and raises more questions than it answers.

Near the Okutama reservoir where Shinji has been sighted, Reiji comes before an abandoned house which used to be occupied by Naori. With the help of Yaginuma, they break in and find what appears to be a rather rundown delivery room. Reading Naori's journal, Reiji learns that the pregnant Touko had died of cardiac arrest, but Naori did manage to deliver the baby - the same kid who Reiji had unknowingly held in his arms once. With a heavy heart, Reiji watches on as Masaki digs up the graves near the house before taking the shovel himself and unearths Touko's skeletal remains. He promises to find the baby for her and, having lost someone he loves for the second time, lets out a cry of profound anguish.

Cue the closing credits.

What a cliffhanger, what a sequel hook. It's amazing and bizarre how little screen time was given to Naori. This is someone who hid Shinji and Touko; killed the young writer and took up his pseudonym; looked after the limbless mother and delivered her baby; helped Nanako kill and bury her despicable father, and very likely compelled Yukiko to commit murders as well. Now he's taken the baby away and gone missing. Why? It may be another five years until we find out.

But be of good cheer. In death Touko is at last free.


Soon the light may disappear, nothing is meant to last. Yet we believe our world, searching for happiness.

The bluebird flies away.

23 comments:

  1. Hi, I don't know if you'll answer my questions, but there aren't many English-speaking reviewers of this game on the English-speaking internet anyway, so I'll take my chances.

    Something I don't understand is, if Ayako was supposed to be Satsuki's murderous double, then why was she allowed to be around Ayato? Ayato was supposed to enter into an arranged marriage with Satsuki, so why did the family heads let Ayako stick around him if she was supposed to be a sacrifice for Satsuki's mental health? Furthermore, who was it who "hurried Ayako away" for her own safety after Satsuki's murder? The way you've written this review implies that Ayako didn't have many friends among the families in the village who would be concerned about her safety.

    One thing you didn't mention was whether or not Ayato knew the difference between "his" Satsuki and the Satsuki he was set to marry. The official KnS2 website doesn't make a distinction, implying that Ayato didn't know the difference either, in the past arc.

    Saya seems like a very unsympathetic character. From what you wrote she didn't care one whit for her biological daughter either. Furthermore, how on Earth did she preserve Satsuki's limbs in such "perfect condition" through the years with 1930s technology? Did she at least tell Ayato that "his" Satsuki was still alive before she died, for dramatic potential? Do "Fuyumi" and "Masaki" get back together in the end, possibly even with "their" Satsuki, their lost daughter? I would think they definitely deserve it, what with everything all three have survived.

    By the way, have you played any of the titles of the Japanese horror game series named Fatal Frame (or Zero in Japanese)? There's a lot of elements in this game that, to my knowledge, are likely to have been inspired by, or paid homage to, the Fatal Frame game series. I can elaborate on this if you'd like.

    Will you be uploading more reviews of games by Innocent Grey in the near future?

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    1. It's been quite a while since I finished the game so my memory of it is a little hazy, but I'll try my best to answer your questions.

      -Why was Ayako allowed to be around Ayato? Why did the family heads let her stick around him if she was a sacrifice?

      I don't think anyone except Satsuki herself cared much about Ayako hanging out with Ayato. I guess it was important to make sure that both of the girls were familiar with Ayato and the villagers, so they wouldn't notice that there were actually two Satsuki. Some of Ayato and Ayako's meetings happened in secret as well I think, so it's not like the family heads could have done anything about it.

      The following is a chronological list of the events that led up to Satsuki's death. You may or may not find it helpful.

      1) Ayato meets Satsuki and asks if she'd like to hang out together sometime. Satsuki says that she isn't sure. She tells Ayako about this after she goes home;
      2) Satsuki visits Ayato and they promise to meet on the day of the festival. Again, she tells Ayako about it;
      3) Ayako meets Ayato when he's drawing in the secret house. They get a bit lovey-dovey;
      4) Ayako runs into Ayato when she goes to the hospital for a check-up. She changes the time and place of Ayato and Satsuki's meeting. She sets up a countersign with Ayato and asks him not to mention this change even to "her" (so Satsuki won't find out). Ayako doesn't tell Satsuki about this;
      5) Ayako and Ayato meet up in the secret house as promised. They sleep together;
      6) They spend more time together during the festival. They watch Satsuki (wearing a mask) performing kagura. I think it's at this point that Satsuki realizes that Ayako has effectively stolen Ayato from her;
      7) After the festival, Saya orders Ayako to murder Sachiko (a lover of Ayato's father's) while Satsuki watches;
      8) Satsuki goes crazy and tries to kill Ayako to become "one", but Ayako ends up strangling Satsuki to death instead.

      So yeah.

      -Who sent Ayako away?

      Kensei Shigusa, a.k.a. the chief priest of the Shigusa shrine and Saya's brother-in-law. He and his wife were quite kind to Ayako, though he sent her away mostly because he wanted to protect the village.

      -Did Ayato know the difference between Satsuki and Ayako?

      No, he didn't. He didn't know that there were two Satsuki nor could he tell them apart.

      -How did Saya preserve Satsuki's limbs so well?

      I don't know much about embalming at all but my guess is that it's due to a combination of chemicals, cold weather and good air isolation. It's probably for the best if you don't think too hard about this one.

      -Did Saya at least tell Ayato that "his" Satsuki was still alive before she died, for dramatic potential?

      I can't remember if she told him or not. I think it was Kensei who told Ayato about sending Ayako to Tokyo, but even then they weren't sure if she was still alive.

      -Do Fuyumi and Masaki get back together in the end, possibly even with their lost daughter?

      Sadly no. The game tried to pair Masaki with Yukari at every chance it got. If I recall correctly, neither Masaki/Ayato or Fuyumi/Ayako showed any sign of wishing to get back together. They did find their daughter though.

      -Have you played any Fatal Frame game?

      Yes. I can definitely see some thematic similarities between KnS 2 and Crimson Butterfly. Not sure about the other games though.

      -Will you be uploading more reviews of games by IG?

      I hope so. I don't know about the upcoming all-age FLOWERS, but I would love to write about the next KnS game.

      Hope that helps.

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    2. The strange thing about Saya and her "limb collection" is that traditionally, Japan used cremation for "corpse disposal" and had no tradition of embalming until it was brought over by westerners, so by all rights she shouldn't have had access to embalming chemicals, unless her status as being related to pharmaceutical magnates meant she already had some on hand.

      Were Ayako and Satsuki instructed to tell each other their day-to-day activities so they would be able to remember what the other did when questioned? Were they also instructed to go out on alternating days (i.e., one stays in one day with the other going out, and the two switch the next day barring illness or injury, with each telling the other how their time outside went) so as to prevent the villagers (and Ayato) from discovering that there were two Satsukis running around? Or did the villagers know that the two were separate and only Ayato was being fooled? Did Kensei intervene because he knew about Ayako's role as "loose-ends-eliminator" and sympathized with her? Or did someone realize that Ayako was pregnant and wanted to save the Hinagami heir, who was likely to be less genetically problematic than if the original pairing of Satsuki and Ayato (being half-siblings as they were) went ahead?

      Did Ayako move to "steal" Ayato because she was tired of being a psychological sacrifice and the "murderous-throwaway"? I can see it as a bit of teenage rebellion on her part. But I don't think that Ayato and Ayako NOT ending back up together again is a good ending. "Old flames" tend to die hard, and it's clear from the CGs that Ayato and Ayako's relationship was very passionate before they were separated--even if Ayato married Yukari (who is clearly of the Yamato Nadeshiko archetype, aside from her obsession with bugs), it looks like to me that this would only be a setup for infidelity on Ayato's part. Did Fuyumi say that if she ended back up with Ayato her murderous tendencies would resurface? And what about Ayato coming to be a father to his lost and rediscovered daughter?

      Furthermore, there's a few things I don't understand about Hitogata village. First, what were the Kuchiki siblings doing there (if indeed the CGs are in fact depicting them in that village)? Next, if the village really was so "traditional," meaning the way of life and the social mores haven't changed for centuries and outside influences are minimized, why are so many of the youngsters wearing western-style "at-home" clothing in the game's CGs, like the one you chose for your "Thankfully the rest of the game is nothing like this" screenshot? Even Yukari was depicted as wearing yukata/kimono while at home in KnS1. Movies like Flags of our Fathers also seem to depict Japanese home life around WWII as though the 20th century (or at least, 20th-century western influences) never arrived in that sphere.

      Of course, Innocent Grey clearly isn't the best stickler for historical accuracy, despite their professed love of the Showa era (1926-1989) of Japanese history. One of their earlier games, PP -Pianissimo- (you can see its vndb link below), aside from its excellent jazz soundtrack, featured its heroines wearing things like miniskirts (a fashion item introduced in the 1960s in the west) despite purportedly being set in 1936(!). This wouldn't have been a problem if it were set in the 1960s or later.

      http://vndb.org/v564

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    3. Also, did the VN at least note how different Hitogata village became after WWII? I would imagine that it would have seemed eerily depopulated of men and more run-down than it was in the 1930s, Japanese conscription of men and materiel being what it was in WWII. The funny thing is, despite several of their games being set during the Japanese occupation and/or garrisoning by the American forces, next to no mention of the American forces is made by the games released by Innocent Grey themselves. I suppose this is in accordance with the Japanese media taboo on mentioning aspects of their actions in WWII, or (Amaterasu forbid) the atomic bombings of Japan, even though the pop cultural icon the Doraemon manga series showed a panel with a mushroom cloud rising in one of its stories saying that WWII ended, and this was from a manga series that started in 1969.

      You should also give the first game in the series, Cartagra, a try. KnS2 has a number of cameos from that first game, as did KnS1. The art isn't as refined as IG's later titles, but at least you'll get to see the backstory of those cameos, some of which I thought weren't very good. For instance, I don't like how Touji Aoki in this game doesn't have a route or even much in the way of CGs of her own--she was a "winnable" heroine back in Cartagra and much more fearsome, too. If Cartagra was ever remade I'd definitely like to see more heroines be "winnable" (most of them sadly do not appear to have any good endings).

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    4. -How did Saya do this and that?

      The toughest question someone has ever asked me regarding KnS 2. I don’t know. She’s crazy and it’s driving me crazy that I can’t remember if she did anything special to preserve Satsuki’s limbs.

      -Were Ayako and Satsuki instructed to tell each other their daily activities?

      I do not believe so, but they did talk to each other quite a bit.

      -Were they also instructed to go out on alternating days?

      They might have been, but I think Ayako went outside more than Satsuki.

      -Did the villagers know that the two were separate?

      Absolutely not. Satsuki and Ayako were raised in secret and weren't allowed to leave the shrine until a few months before the festival. Even Ayato's grandmother didn’t know that there were two Satsuki.

      -Did Kensei intervene because he knew about Ayako's role and sympathized with her?

      I guess you're talking about him sending her away? I imagine he did feel sorry for Ayako, but his reason for doing what he did was to protect the future of his family.

      -Did someone realize that Ayako was pregnant and wanted to save the Hinagami heir?

      No, I don't think anyone knew that Ayako was pregnant.

      -Did Ayako move to "steal" Ayato because she was tired of being a psychological sacrifice and the "murderous-throwaway"?

      I guess you could say that. While her love for Ayato was genuine, Ayako said herself that she wanted to leave something behind in this world - in Ayato's heart - before she faded to black as Satsuki's shadow.

      -Did Fuyumi say that if she ended back up with Ayato her murderous tendencies would resurface?

      No. She’s basically a different person after Rokushiki adjusted her personality.

      -What about Ayato coming to be a father to his lost and rediscovered daughter?

      Fuyumi is going to take care of their daughter. Masaki is a free man.

      -What were the Kuchiki siblings doing there?

      Naori and the Kuchiki siblings are cousins. They went to the village so Chizuru can get some medical treatment at Naori's family-run hospital, as the Kuchiki hospital was being used by the military as a research facility at the time.

      -Why are so many youngsters wearing Western clothes?

      Ayato and Karen: Ayato was a rebel. Karen was interested in fashion and longed for city life. She regularly asked her father, who managed the family pharmaceutical business in Tokyo, to get women’s magazines for her. So it’s no surprise that she’d be less inclined to dress traditionally.

      Naori: The Kuroya family was quite westernized compared with the rest of the village. Naori's grandfather didn't care much for the village's traditions. Their house/hospital was decidedly Western. Naori, his father and grandfather all specialized in Western medicine.

      Meguri: She liked dolling herself up. Being Karen’s good friend probably didn’t help.

      Yuu: She lived with her grandmother, who was extremely loyal to the Hinagami family and disliked meddlesome outsiders like Reiji. While Yuu was much more open-minded and level-headed than her grandmother, she was nonetheless the most traditional one in Ayato’s group, and so she wore kimono.

      Fumiya and Chizuru: Rich kids from Tokyo.

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    5. -Did the VN at least note how different Hitogata village became after WWII?

      More or less handwaved. The village was apparently too secluded to be affected by the Second Sino-Japanese War. Naori also said at the beginning of the past arc that the Japanese military did not plan to recruit anyone from the village.

      -Regarding Innocent Grey’s older titles

      Yeah I’m well aware of the connections between KnS and Cartagra. Funny that you brought up PP -Pianissimo-, I used to listen to its soundtrack quite a bit as I’m a fan of MANYO’s. It’s unlikely that I’d get the chance to write up on Caucasus, simply because I don’t have that much free time now and I’ve got too many distractions.

      -Similarities between KnS 2 and Fatal Frame games

      I think they mostly drew on traditional Japanese horror stories and of course, Natsuhiko Kyougoku’s works. I haven’t seen Japanese players comparing the two series anyway.

      Lastly, I made some mistakes in the list I gave you. A more comprehensive list in the correct chronological order should be like this,

      1) Ayako goes to the village for the first time and gets lost. She meets Ayato (meaning the first Satsuki he met was Ayako) and he carries her back to the shrine. She tells Satsuki about Ayato;
      2) Ayako visits Ayato's grandfather to pay her respects;
      3) Ayato's group takes Satsuki to their hide-out;
      4) Ayato meets Satsuki and asks if she'd like to go to the festival together. Satsuki isn't sure. She tells Ayako about this;
      5) Ayako meets Ayato when he's drawing near the hide-out. Ayato says he will give the picture to Ayako when he finishes it;
      6) Satsuki visits Ayato. He asks her if they could meet at the hide-out after the festival. Satsuki says she can't promise anything and that they will discuss about it next time. She tells Ayako about it;
      7) Ayako runs into Ayato when she goes to the hospital for a check-up. She changes the time and place of Ayato and Satsuki's meeting. She sets up a countersign with Ayato and asks him not to mention this change even to "her" (so Satsuki won't find out). Ayako doesn't tell Satsuki about this;
      8) Ayako and Ayato meet up at the hide-out as promised. They sleep together;
      9) They spend more time together during the festival. They watch Satsuki (wearing a mask) performing kagura;
      10) After the festival, Saya orders Ayako to murder Sachiko while Satsuki watches;
      11) Satsuki goes to the secret house as she and Ayato had orignially promised, but obviously Ayato never shows up;
      12) Satsuki begins to lose it. Eventually she goes crazy and tries to kill Ayako to become "complete", but ends up getting strangled to death instead.

      I tried.

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    6. You tried, and so far you're succeeding. Well, I'm comparing KnS2 to Fatal Frame because the latter is pretty much the only long-running ghost-focussed Japanese horror series that has had multiple releases in the west that has the tropes/fictional elements I mentioned. Maybe more Japanese horror titles that never got western releases has similar elements to those seen in this game. Do you think you could tell me who the voice actresses for Fuyumi and Yukiko were in this game?

      Yes, the fact that Hitogata village survived without being conscripted from or depleted of supplies does sound like a handwave. I made a mistake and shouldn't have mentioned the film Flags of our Fathers--I should have mentioned its "twin release" Letters from Iwo Jima instead. The latter film depicted Japanese home life during WWII to be one of increasing hardship, with less and less physically-qualified men being conscripted and domestic machinery being looted for reshaping into war materiel. Sure, the KnS2 writers could claim that Hitogata village was too far away from the national railroads to be worth conscripting-and-looting from (and the Japanese were almost out of coal for their steam locomotives by the end of the war anyway), but there are still plenty of stories from history about how desperate the Japanese were getting once Okinawa fell and the Allies were getting ready to invade the Japanese mainland, such as the one where a young Japanese girl was given an awl (a tool for piercing things) and told to stab an American soldier to death--"just one will do."

      I see, I thought that since the family heads controlled a hospital they might have waited long enough to test Ayako for pregnancy before smuggling her out of Hitogata village (assuming they suspected the murder of Satsuki to have been because of sexual jealousy). But anyway, I think that it would have been realistic if nothing was left of the wealth and businesses of the family heads at Hitogata village after WWII. The economic history books like to talk about the post-war "Japanese economic miracle," but who now mourns for the various Japanese businesses/companies whose assets had all been turned to ash and dust in the round-the-clock Allied bombing campaigns on Japan, and thus didn't survive to see the reconstruction era?

      By the way, the classic Doraemon manga, Vol. 5 Chapter 18, actually featured a panel with a mushroom cloud, saying "And finally, the war ended", which to my knowledge is the only mention of the atomic bombings in a mainstream manga that people still enjoy today.

      Did you mean that you actually played Pianissimo, or are just a fan of its soundtrack? That's another Innocent Grey game that hasn't gotten a detailed review of its plot like yours. You played KnS1 before KnS2, right? Anyway, I still like how detailed this review was and am looking forward to seeing you make more of them--maybe you can make another Innocent Grey title your next "major distraction" instead of your usual ones.

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    7. There's still another level of strangeness concerning the accursed Hitogata village. First up, thanks for telling me why so many youngsters in the village are wearing western clothing. The strangeness comes next:

      -How many of the less-than-traditional youngsters survived WWII? I would think not many of them did--those who wanted a taste of city life might have tried escaping to the cities during the war, which were obviously high-priority targets for Allied bombing in WWII. You already mentioned that Yuu Futami was around to see Reiji after the war, so clearly she survived, though not likely without some cost. I wonder if she or the others aged as well as Ayako did.

      -From the event CGs it looks like Satsuki wasn't the only one sacrificed and tied to the Torii--could you tell me briefly about who that was and why she was sacrificed?

      -Karen has a suspicious-looking CG where she appears to be shaping dark clay into a vaguely-late-term-fetus-like shape. This same "clay fetus" is seen in a few other CGs, with one showing what appears to be blood being poured on it. What was that all about?

      -I remember reading that Chizuru mentioned she had an abortion in KnS1, but years earlier. I take it that the incident that necessitated that abortion takes place in the village according to the CGs, right? What was she sick with, again? And what's her problem so that she goes running to her brother?

      -Masaki is "free," now? That sounds like a "crush your hopes and dreams for no good reason" ending like Key would pull (like they did with Clannad and Tomoyo After, especially for the latter). I thought Masaki at least wanted to be a responsible father. Besides, Reiji's situation is tragic enough, but even that's not softened by managing to reunite a sundered family, given everything that they and their daughter went through? I find this kind of odd too--Ayako wanted "leave something of herself" with Ayato, but he left something of himself in her instead, and now they can't or won't be a family despite the romantic beginning. A real shame.

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    8. -Fuyumi's and Yukiko's voice actresses

      Fuyumi is voiced by Maki Hitsuru (桧鶴まき), though people have been speculating that she and Satsuki's VA Mahiru Notsuki (野月まひる) are the same person ever since voice samples were uploaded on the official KnS 2 site. Mahiru's name can be rearranged into Maki Hitsuru as well (ignoring the "no"). Yukiko is voiced by Sarah Ayumi, and it's her first role as far as I know. Her twitter is http://twitter.com/ayumi_sarah.

      -How many of the less-than-traditional youngsters survived WW2?

      All of them. Ayato went back to the village when the Philippines Campaign finished and ran away after he killed Saya. Karen went to Tokyo and helped her father manage their family business. Naori didn't go back to the village after graduating from university I think, he worked at the orphanage that looked after Yukiko and later became employed by Tenkeikai. Meguri and Yuu stayed in the village. I'd say they all aged pretty well.

      The story of Kara no Shoujo never intended to concern itself with WW2 anyway. So there's probably not much point approaching the events in the game from a historical perspective.

      -Who was the other person that was sacrificed and tied to the torii?

      Yuka Kirimura, the Hinagami family's housemaid.

      To understand why she was murdered, you need to know that Karen was the one killing off one woman after another in the Present arc. Karen loved Ayato and as a Hinagami, she could have married him after Satsuki's death. However, it turned out that she was infertile and so she lost her chance to become the miko. Warmer than hope and deeper than despair, Karen's love twisted her into a vicious murderer who was hell-bent on making sure that none of Ayato's marriage candidates would get him. She saw the candidates' names that her father had scribbled on a piece of paper, but because his handwriting was so awful, Karen mistakenly thought that Yuka (ユカ) was a candidate when it was actually Yuu (ユウ). So Karen murdered the poor maid in cold blood and made her death look like "Hina-sama's Curse".

      -What was Karen doing shaping clay into "clay fetus"? What's this "clay fetus" all about?

      Karen was training herself to become the miko I believe.

      The clay fetus is the go-shintai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shintai) of Hina-sama. The Hinagami family basically killed anyone they considered a nuisance and claimed the murders as "Hina-sama's Curse". I don't know what would happen if the victim were a man, but in female victims' cases, a clay fetus was placed inside their wombs.

      -What's up with Chizuru?

      I don't think she was seriously ill when they went to the village, it was more like she had always been a bit sickly so she required regular medical attention. She and her brother had some pretty passionate sex during their stay in the village, and she got pregnant. After that she was diagnosed with leukaemia and miscarried during her treatment. I'm not sure what you meant by "what's her problem so that she goes running to her brother?". Chizuru had always depended on her brother a lot so she'd go running to Fumiya whenever there was trouble.

      -Fuyumi and Masaki

      I think one of the biggest reasons why they just couldn't get back together was because Masaki never loved Ayako or Satsuki, he had always loved "Satsuki" who was essentially the combined persona of the two girls. This "Satsuki" would later become his "paranoia" and when he finally got over it after many years, he came to realize that the "Satsuki" he loved never really existed - Ayako and Satsuki were just fragments of "Satsuki". Ayako had changed a lot after she became Fuyumi too, so I can see why Masaki didn't rekindle his old flame - it was just not the same anymore. Hopefully he will at least do his part as a father in the sequel.

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    9. Thanks again for continuing to be informative. As for "Sarah Ayumi," this is the first time I've heard of an eroge voice actress publicly having a twitter account under her eroge alias (at least I think it's her eroge alias since "Ayumi" doesn't strike me as an actual Japanese last name). Most of the time they use aliases to avoid attracting attention to their work in eroge (which usually hampers their chances at mainstream success in non-adult JP media), which is why "Sarah Ayumi" having a twitter account seems odd to me. The CGs show that it is possible for Reiji to get into an h-scene with Yukiko, but another reviewer told me that this route only leads to a bad ending. Do you know anything about that?

      I have a feeling the Japanese would pronounce Sarah Ayumi's first name as they do Sarah Bryant's name in the following gameplay video of a pachinko game based on SEGA's Virtua Fighter series:

      http://youtu.be/Gfek4-TarnM?t=1m59s

      I see, Ayato returned to the village around 1942, killed Saya, and then deserted and waited out the rest of the war? I was thinking that since the Imperial Japanese Army was an infamous waster of men's lives in Banzai charges and the like (with very few who surrendered due to the Bushido code of suicide-before-dishonour adopted by the IJA), for Ayato to survive (where the vast majority didn't) he would likely have had to be captured by the Americans once the Pacific Campaign got into full swing and repatriated after the war, unless Ayato deserted early on (which was indeed the case as you say). So that's why the character CGs of the villagers don't seem to show much difference over the years (it wasn't that long from the "past arc" in the 1930s) when Ayato visits the village for the last time--unlike his friends from his teenage years, the years clearly weren't as kind to Ayato. Then again, you tell me that Karen was around in the present (1960s) arc and she doesn't look a day older than from the past arc, despite 30 years having passed. I just wanted to bring up the "WW2 taboo" in Japanese media in general as a possible reason why Innocent Grey won't go there, never mind the "atomic sunrises" that even Doraemon's mangaka saw fit to mention and include. On a side note, Shugo Takashiro (the player character from Cartagra) is also mentioned to have been a WW2 veteran, though I never got to find out how he managed to survive that conflict given the factors I mentioned previously.

      I'll admit that trying to determine an eroge's story from its CGs alone is rather foolish (given the relative lack of context), but I never suspected Karen of being the murderess (an old term for a female murderer), since the event CGs don't identifiably show her actually in the process of committing murder. Maybe Innocent Grey did that deliberately so the story wouldn't be compromised if the game's CGs were leaked before the game's actual release. How closely was Karen related to Ayato, anyway (she would have to be if they shared the same surname and grew up in the same village)? And how did they find out she was infertile? Did they examine her at the local hospital (as part-and-parcel of a procedure to determine how suitable she would be as someone to carry the future generation) or something less savoury? This "madness born of obsession and love" that Karen suffered from is something that's been in the prequel of the KnS series, Cartagra, though that title calls it "The Sickness of Possessory and Crazy" in its tagline (in an example of terrible Engrish). Another character in Cartagra even kills for much the same reason that Karen does in KnS2--she can't have children either, but the way she goes about it is even more extreme.

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    10. Anyway, another victim is a female character who mostly resembles Fuyumi--is she actually Fuyumi in a bad ending, or just someone Karen mistook for Fuyumi? And what was Sato Ayumu doing in this game? From the little I read of the KnS1 fan translation before it was taken offline, I was under the impression that she was dead before that game's events. But in this game's CGs she appears to have an h-scene of her own and has apparently taken up Touji Aoki's proficiency with the tonfa (Touji was apparently infamous for her skill with that weapon in that game).

      I see that Chizuru fell into the same mental trap that Sora Kasugano (of the bestselling eroge title Yosuga no Sora and anime adaptation) did--she saw her brother as more than a caretaker. I seem to recall that she adopted Touko Kuchiki in KnS1 because she herself became infertile, and thought her miscarriage might have had something to do with that.

      As for Fuyumi and Masaki, maybe I was expecting them to be like old friends who haven't met for years but when they start talking in person again it's like the years just melt away and they're back to their old ways again. Does she see him only as a sperm donor of sorts for their child now? I would have thought that at least some elements of Ayako's non-murderous personality traits survived after she became Fuyumi and would have been the basis for a rekindled romance between her and Ayato.

      As for a third instalment in the KnS series, I really hope that Reiji marries Kyouko. She clearly loves him and he certainly reciprocates her affection on some level; if he and Touko Kuchiki's child were ever found again I'm sure Kyouko wouldn't mind adopting it. It's clear from KnS2 that her life in danger by being close to Reiji (though I have no idea why Yukiko would target her), so him being around to protect her would definitely help.

      The Tenkeikai don't make much sense to me (not that they did as the Senrikyou in Cartagra either). How did they survive being publicly exposed for their heinous deeds back in Cartagra? What were they doing in the present arc of KnS2 anyway?

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    11. -Eroge voice actors/actresses

      It's not really that rare for eroge VAs to have twitter accounts. Even amongst the KnS 2 cast, you have Mahiru (http://twitter.com/moon_at_mid_day), Hikaru Isshiki (http://twitter.com/issiki_hikaru), Saya's VA Yui Ogura (http://twitter.com/ogurayui1017) and Ayato's grandmother Kei Aikawa (http://twitter.com/aiaikawa0719). Just to name a few.

      -H scene with Yukiko and bad end

      As far as the true route is concerned, Reiji only had sex with Kyouko. Reiji can't get on the bus to the true end unless he declines to sleep with Yukiko or Ayumu.

      -How closely was Karen related to Ayato?

      Full siblings. They were officially Shizuru and Rika's kids, but in reality their father was Shizuru's younger brother and Naori's father Yuzuru, who was smitten with Rika and had an affair with her.

      -How did they find out that Karen was infertile?

      I don't remember if it were ever explicitly stated how they found out. She probably had some nasty menstrual cycles and yeah.

      -There is a female character who resembles Fuyumi. Is she Fuyumi in a bad ending, or did Karen make a mistake?

      That's Karen's good friend Meguri, who had a crush on Ayato ever since they were young. She was one of the candidates for Ayato, so you can guess what Karen did to her.

      -What was Ayumu Satou doing in this game? Didn't she die?

      Ayumu is alive and well. She acted as Reiji's sidekick and helped him capture Karen.

      -More about Chizuru

      Chizuru and Sora certainly do share some personality traits. Fumiya lusted after his sister pretty hard though, and he was definitely a lot more assertive and aggressive than Haruka from the get-go. Indeed, Chizuru became infertile after her miscarriage.

      -Does Fuyumi only see Masaki as a sperm donour of sorts for their child?

      I wouldn't say that. I imagine they will be seeing each other quite often, but nothing more than friends. Fuyumi hadn't told Masaki about how she was going to look after their child I think. Masaki is kind of dense so yeah.

      -Reiji and Kyouko

      Them becoming a couple seems like a logical conclusion, Yukari even told Reiji that she's okay with him marrying Kyouko. I will believe it when I see it though, I have a weird feeling that Koharu is going to become quite important to Reiji.

      -Why did Yukiko target Kyouko?

      Yukiko targeted anyone she admired. Kyouko's motherly aura was pretty dazzling, so naturally Yukiko wanted to "become" Kyouko.

      -How did Tenkeikai survive being publicly exposed for their heinous deeds back in Cartagra as Senrikyou?

      The same way Aum Shinrikyou, or Aleph as they call themselves now, remained active after everything they had done.

      -What were they doing in the Present arc of KnS 2 anyway?

      The chief representative of Tenkeikai, Tokihiro Oribe was a deeply religious but honest man. Back when Michio Shigusa (Yukiko's father) first started Tenkei no Kai, Tokihiro was an important figure within the organization. He fell out of favour with Michio when the latter became corrupt, this was around the same time Tenkei no Kai changed to Senrikyou I think. After Cartagra, Tokihiro took in Senrikyou followers and used his own money to found Tenkeikai.

      Essentially Tokihiro was trying to run a proper religious group, but several key figures in the group like Keigo Utsugi had other ideas.

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    12. Hmm, this makes me wonder whether some eroge-focused voice actresses have two twitter accounts, one for their main alias (though many use a lot of aliases) and one for their real identities.

      That bit about Ayumu Satou means I should go buy the full Mangagamer translation of KnS1 and read how she survived, then. I take it Yukiko kills Reiji if the player chooses to make the latter sleep with the former? I don't know if Yukiko is as tall as Kyouko is (Yukiko could certainly emulate Kyouko's bust size after "assimilation," though certainly not Yukari's), or if she would dye her hair regularly afterwards to keep up the facade. I'm almost afraid to ask whether the bad ending where Yukari is "assimilated" implies that Reiji starts a sexual relationship with his new "sister" and whether she objects.

      You really weren't kidding when you said "some are more related than others." I wonder if Ayato or Karen themselves found out just how closely related they actually were. How did Ayato fall into Meguri's arms for that short scene, then? Is that from a bad ending? Innocent Grey really likes the "killer sister" archetype, usually with her being taken by the "Sickness of Possessory and Crazy."

      As much as I think it would make sense for Reiji to marry Kyouko before the start of KnS3, I think that the pressure from fans to include 18+ material for the player character(s) will be too strong, so monogamy isn't guaranteed if that happens. What did you mean that "Koharu is going to become quite important to Reiji"? The CGs don't seem to show any sign of her starting a relationship with Reiji, and it looks like she can become a victim of the "Hinna-sama-style" murders in at least one bad ending.

      By the way, aside from Touji Aoki (who has but 1 CG to her name and no route, sadly), it seems that the characters from Cartagra have largely backed out of the picture. Natsume (who was clearly smitten with Reiji in KnS1) doesn't appear in any CGs. Kazuna and Hatsune aren't in the game at all--did they get their happy endings and just disappear out of the story? I thought that Hatsune would still have been working in Kyouko's cafe, as she was in KnS1. I'm still surprised that, instead of making her a "winnable" heroine in KnS1, Kazuna and Shugo didn't just adopt her (no word on what became of her adoptive mother Ujaku from Cartagra either, which is odd since according to the CGs Ujaku had feelings for Shugo). It's clear from events in KnS1 that Hatsune still loved Shugo like she did in Cartagra, and I'm sure she would have been happy as his adopted daughter if she couldn't be Shugo's wife (which I heard is one possible ending in Cartagra).

      Is your current background character Altina from Shining Blade? Did you play the full game? Are you going to review more Innocent Grey games in the foreseeable future, or are you finished with that company's games?

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    13. -Yukiko, bad endings, etc.

      No, Yukiko doesn't kill Reiji. It's just that you can't get to the true ending if Reiji slept with her (or Ayumu). Yukiko didn't get to kill Kyouko so she only assimilated a part of Kyouko, which manifested in the form of her uncharacteristically making coffee for Yukari the next day. Reiji was repulsed by Yukiko's impersonation of Yukari so it's very unlikely anything would happen between them in that ending.

      I'm not sure why you were under the impression that Ayumu died in KnS 1. She was never in any real danger back in the previous game. Are you perhaps confusing her with Tsuzuriko?

      -How did Ayato fall into Meguri's arms for that short scene? Is that from a bad ending?

      I guess you are talking about Masaki and Meguri's H scenes. If I recall correctly, they are additional scenes that you get on the second playthrough. I don't remember exactly how they ended up having sex but I think they drank a bit and it just went from there. Sort of like a one night stand. It's not from a bad ending and it doesn't lead to one either because Meguri will die no matter what.

      -What did you mean that Koharu was going to become quite important to Reiji?

      I̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶I̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶b̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶f̶o̶n̶d̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶K̶o̶h̶a̶r̶u̶ ̶s̶i̶n̶c̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶i̶r̶s̶t̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶. A couple of things about her that struck me as a little odd in KnS 2. Firstly she got a lot of screen time for a secondary character. Secondly she had CGs dedicated to her holding Reiji's hands as he was waking up in the hospital. I thought that was rather strange because the CGs didn't serve any particularly meaningful purpose. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

      -What happened to the Cartagra cast?

      Natsume got sidelined really hard in KnS 2. Her role was pretty much limited to performing autopsies. Kazuna and Shugo went back to live at the Koutsuki household in Zushi. Shugo was still investigating Senrikyou/Tenkeikai. Touji spoke to him and Nana on the phone in KnS 2. Hatsune left Kyouko's cafe to help Ujaku I think. Kyouko was having some serious financial trouble anyway. Shugo didn't adopt Hatsune in Cartagra, he actually married her in her ending and they had a daughter together.

      -Is your current background character Altina from Shining Blade?

      Yep, or it was anyway. I quite liked Altina (archer + voiced by Marina Inoue), but I put her up mostly because I just bought the Shining Blade & Ark Collection of Visual Materials.

      -Did you play the full game?

      Yeah, I finished it over a year ago I think. It was basically a poor man's Valkyria Chronicles with a little bit of Ar tonelico thrown in. I liked it better than Shining Ark because of its larger cast and the fact that many of the characters were from previous Shining games. It was an unremarkable game but it was definitely playable, which I suppose is the equivalent of saying it's good for a game that was bound to suffer from the Tony Taka curse. Sega should go back and make a proper Shining Force game.

      -Are you going to review more IG games in the future or are you done with their games?

      Well like I have said before, I'd love to write about KnS 3 when it comes out. I don't think I will be reviewing older Innocent Grey games though.

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    14. No plans to review older IG games? Damn, and I thought that since you liked the tropes they used, you'd be interested in seeing how they played out in earlier IG games.

      So Yukiko's "assimilation" is, as expected of someone who only knows the "target" on short notice, badly imperfect. I still must wonder if Yukiko would go as far as dyeing her hair (if she had succeeded with Kyouko) or binding her breasts (once she succeeded with Yukari) to more accurately emulate her "targets."

      Hmm, it seems that Meguri is killed no matter what to show just how far Karen has fallen into the "sickness of possesory and crazy," given that Meguri was once Karen's best friend. IG really loves this trope!

      So you meant Koharu (a female doctor at the Kuchiki hospital), not Kohane (Yukiko's friend), as I originally thought? Kohane would have been an odd choice to me; she seemed (in the CGs) to do little else other than engage in "skinship" with Yukiko, and then get killed Hinna-sama style (why would anyone go through all that trouble?) in one CG, even though the IG protagonists have thus far have always had the ability to chase school-age heroines. I'd like it if you could clear that up for me. It would be interesting if Koharu became a heroine in KnS3, but we have to remember how IG loves to target female characters who get close to, or have the opportunity to get close to, the protagonists, and we still have Kyouko (who has had some history with Reiji).

      Before the KnS1 translation was shut down as an open translation project, I had read that Ayumu was missing (at first), so I assumed that she'd been a victim before the story began. Nice to see that she at least knew how to handle herself.

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    15. As for the Cartagra characters, it seems you've played the game through before, so I'd still like to know a bit more about it. I knew beforehand from another player of the game that Hatsune's ending is an abortive one where Shugo abandons the investigation into Yura and the Senrikyou and marries Hatsune (I'm almost afraid to ask how old Hatsune was in that game) in order to save Hatsune from "starting out" as another prostitute in Ujaku's "Yukishiro" brothel. But since from what I've read, Hatsune clearly still loves Shugo in KnS1 despite Shugo marrying Kazuna in the "canon" ending (personally I would have liked to have seen what would have happened to Shugo had the alternate scenario in the Nagomibako fandisc, where he reunites with Yura and leaves to start over with her, become canon)--that's why I brought up the possibility that if she couldn't be Shugo's wife (and the mother of his children, since she clearly didn't object to that in her own ending in Cartagra), she wouldn't mind being his adoptive daughter.

      I was told that many would-be heroines in Cartagra are "unwinnable," and were put in to round-out the "h-scene quota," as it were. Still, I would like to know whether the writers actually bothered to give those scenes plausible grounding, or if the IG quirk of "h-scenes out of nowhere" was the rule of the day in Cartagra (this is one reason I wanted you to review Caucasus in-depth; how can you justify a fast-forming intimate relationship over the course of three days, which is all the time the story has in that game?). My specific questions for each character follow:

      -How did Shugo and Touji Aoki come to know each other? Is there a reason given as to why they can't stay together (now that would have been an interesting ending)?

      -What exactly is the nature of the relationship between Shugo and Ujaku, anyway? Are her h-scenes just her way of making Shugo "pay his rent" since it's mentioned early in the game he doesn't pay much rent to stay in Yukishiro?

      -If it's not possible to save Takako, then why did they include her in the story? What kind of history does she share with Shugo, and how old is she, if according to a CG she met Shugo when she was a small child?

      Could you tell me whether the following IG-related twitter account is actually that of Mio Yasuda? It's using Kazuna's picture, and Mio Yasuda played both Kazuna and her twin sister Yura in Cartagra. The background picture implies that she played a role in KnS2 as well under that "Katouran Kazuna" alias. If indeed the twitter account belongs to who I think it does, I'd like to know which role it was.

      https://twitter.com/katoran_kazuna

      According to the very few English reviews about the PSP-centred Shining games, I hear they're almost insultingly easy. It's almost as if they don't want to offend players by actually giving them situations where they're likely to lose--is that a tactic that helps them to sell well? I can't imagine the series' staple of hiring such big-name seiyuus like Nana Mizuki for every one of their titles is good for Sega's bottom line, either. What exactly is the "Tony Taka curse" you mentioned?

      Thanks again for your information.

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    16. It seems I forgot to ask something about Kazuna; does she still lose a leg in the KnS1 canon ending? Furthermore, I was under the impression that she was disowned by her rich family in the canon Cartagra ending for discovering the truth about her twin sister Yura--they were the ones bound up in that old Japanese superstition of "having identical twins is a very bad omen" (not the first time such a trope has appeared in an eroge; try an older-but-with-many-re-releases title called Kao no nai Tsuki where that is a central plot element, which also happened to be the breakout title for the popular eroge artist named "Carnelian") and "grey eyes are a curse." I doubt they'd be at all happy for their "good" daughter to suddenly discover the truth about their "dirty laundry." Did the KnS games go into how her family reacted to her discovery of the truth?

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    17. -Koharu? Kohane?

      Yeah I meant Koharu. As for Kohane, it's pretty much like what you've said, she was mostly there for the "cute girls doing cute things" scenes. She was made somewhat relevant by having lived in the same orphanage as Yukiko and by being one of Shizuru's daughters, hence one of Masaki's potential wives. Her death only would occur if Reiji didn't correctly deduce Karen was the killer.

      -How did Shugo and Touji Aoki come to know each other?

      Touji's past is shrouded in mystery. No one really knows how she and Shugo met, but they have known each other since his days as a police officer so yeah.

      -Is there a reason given as to why they can't stay together?

      Touji didn't have a route so nope.

      -What exactly is the nature of the relationship between Shugo and Ujaku, anyway? Are her h-scenes just her way of making Shugo "pay his rent" since it's mentioned early in the game he doesn't pay much rent to stay in Yukishiro?

      Nothing too special really. She asked Shugo to comfort her in one of the H scenes, and she had sex with him again later as a reward for solving the case.

      -If it's not possible to save Takako, then why did they include her in the story? What kind of history does she share with Shugo, and how old is she, if according to a CG she met Shugo when she was a small child?

      Shock value. He protected her when she was a kid, love at first sight. Her age should be somewhere around 16 I guess.

      -Could you tell me whether the following IG-related twitter account is actually that of Mio Yasuda?

      No, it's not unfortunately.

      -Does Kazuna lose a leg in the KnS 1 canon ending?

      I'm pretty sure Kazuna was perfectly fine. Rokushiki didn't do anything to her in the true route.

      -More on Kazuna

      I don't remember her family ever disowning her. The whole "cursed child" superstition was something started by people who were jealous of the family's wealth. Yura just so happened to be born with grey eyes that could be seen as a curse. Her father wasn't happy at all when he had to tell Shugo and Kazuna the truth about Yura, but he didn't disown Kazuna or anything.

      -Is making the Shining games easy a tactic that helps them sell well?

      Maybe, but I think the main selling points were Tony Taka's art and all-star voice casts.

      -What exactly is the "Tony Taka curse"?

      It's not something that's exclusive to Tony, but he's kind of infamous for being involved in many mediocre games. He's called a "landmine (kusoge) illustrator" or "unfortunate illustrator" in Japan because the games that he illustrates for tend to be of substandard quality in terms of writing and/or game play. Of course, it's not his fault that the games turn out terrible, but his art has become somewhat of a warning sign that many would be happy to stay away from (while many others blissfully ignore). Toshihide Sano is another prime example in the eroge industry. Elsewhere, I'd say artists like Tsunako and Katsuyuki Hirano are pretty unlucky too. Counterexamples would probably be Mel Kishida and nagi (S.E.C.), largely because GUST actually treats their games with some respect.

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    18. Thanks for clarifying about whether it was Kohane or Koharu. Think you could tell me just what Koharu might see in Reiji? Furthermore, isn't Karen's plan more than a little half-baked? Even if she kills every last one of Masaki's potential marriage candidates aside from herself, from what you've told me she's still in the dark about her true relationship to Masaki, something that would stop her from getting her married to Masaki anyway (if the trend of the marriage candidates getting murdered didn't tip someone off to take her into "protective custody" or something like that).

      The more you tell me about Cartagra, the more it seems like a rather unfinished title. I thought that Rin was the "shock value" character already, since she too can't be saved no matter what the player chooses. Why stick Takako in that role as well, unless she had a route with her own ending that was cut from the game? Miki Sugina sure drew a lot of CGs for her and several other possible heroines, 18+ and otherwise, only to turn them into so many dead ends. Thanks to those dead ends and unmentioned backstories, we're supposed to believe that Touji, supposedly one of the Japanese underworld's most dangerous enforcers, would stick around and help Shugo, even to the point of sleeping with him, for no mentioned reasons or evidence. What brought that scene on, anyway? I would think that Shugo and Touji must share some positive history with each other if she's willing to lend him her lap and then the rest of her.

      It'd be great if Innocent Grey remade Cartagra with their current writing team and new CGs with the modern art style that Miki Sugina has, along with new storylines to tie up all the loose ends I mentioned. Sadly I would think that's highly unlikely, despite the fact that there have been several remakes of "classic" eroge titles in recent years.

      From the videos I've seen of the "modern" Shining games, the all-star voice cast seems to deliver pretty consistently good performances (especially Chiwa Saitou, Houko Kuwashima, and the ever-popular Nana Mizuki in my view). But the problematic nature of these games isn't really the fault of Tony Taka anyway, since he doesn't do any of the coding/modeling/other associated "real work." Sadly he's stuck with the reputation you mentioned. Are you interested in Shining Resonance, the now-upcoming Shining series title?

      And which KnS2 character did "Katouran Kazuna" voice, again?

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    19. -What Koharu might see in Reiji?

      He's a generally nice person who works hard and is sometimes willing to neglect his own safety for others I guess? Their relationship is quite professional, which is why the scene in the hospital seems odd and unnecessary.

      -Isn't Karen's plan more than a little half-baked?

      At this point Karen doesn't really care about getting married to Masaki. She just wants to be with and look after him. Masaki is fine with living with Karen as shown in one of the bad ends.

      -Cartagra etc.

      It was Innocent Grey's first game and the writing wasn't so great to be honest. Killing characters left and right is a (often) cheap but (usually) effective trick to leave a strong impression on the audience, as many contemporary works have shown. That's why I thought KnS 2 was actually quite restrained with its deaths and all that, and indeed it didn't feel as deranged or scary as the first game.

      Takako did have a route, sort of. It's a bad end that led to Shugo being suspected as her killer and eventually dying in the prison.

      I really don't remember anything about Shugo and Touji's sex scene now, but certainly something positive must have happened between them in the past. It may be elaborated in the future, or be left a mystery for fans to speculate on.

      Innocent Grey is concentrating on FLOWERS right now. I believe they are splitting up the game into four episodes - the first one had "spring" as its theme, and the next three will have the other three seasons as their themes. So yes it's highly unlikely they will remake their older games and we probably won't see Kara no Shoujo 3 until 2016 or later.

      -Are you interested in Shining Resonance?

      Nope nope nope. That was my reaction upon reading about it in Famitsu two months ago. Sen no Kiseki II is the only RPG I'm anticipating at the moment.

      -Which KnS2 character did "Katoran Kazuna" voice again?

      I might be wrong but I'm quite sure that's just an alias used by that Innocent Grey fan on twitter. I do not recall seeing that name in KnS2 voice cast, or anywhere else for that matter.

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  2. First, thanks for your informative answers. I'll address them a little later, but here's a few other things first.

    FLOWERS is all-ages? That's a break from Innocent Grey's tradition. I don't believe they ever made a yuri-centric game before, let alone a game that started out as all-ages. Anyway, it's clear that you played and liked KnS1, but you could go and review previous titles by Innocent Grey. Caucasus: Nanatsuki no Nie is one title that hasn't been reviewed in English with a detailed analysis of the plotline to my knowledge, and Touko Kuchiki's voice actress, Aji Sanma, plays a significant heroine there. I think you'd enjoy it.

    Anyway, here's a non-comprehensive list of elements that this game appears to borrow from, or pay homage to, the Fatal Frame series. It's non-comprehensive because I don't know Japanese-if I did and had played the game, I'm sure I would have found more. If you want the references explained in more detailed, go to the Fatal Frame wiki here:

    http://bcl.rpen.us/zerowiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

    Alright, here goes:

    -A promotional image of KnS2 that features Ayako in a gloomy room of an old Japanese house, holding origami cranes and next to a temari or traditional Japanese toy ball, with powdery snow on the outside coming in, with a soft blue glow suffusing everything. The whole visual ambience and colour palette choice is highly reminiscent of the same elements in Fatal Frame 3, which used the same colour palette, powdery snow falling from the outside, and a sombre blue glow as a signature color for the save points, the cursed tattoos, and some of the ghosts in that game.

    -The whole "look-alikes strangling one another" with a significant focus on the resulting strangulation marks is clearly lifted from Fatal Frame 2: The Crimson Butterfly, as you yourself noticed. The Crimson Butterfly is, in fact, derived from the shape of strangulation marks.

    -Saya's "tie Satsuki's limbless body to the torii with ropes" bit is highly reminiscent of the very significant "Strangling Ritual" from Fatal Frame 1. Saya's amputation of Satsuki's limbs and subsequent "re-use" of those limbs is also reminiscent of what happens to the arms of the "Tattooed Engravers" from Fatal Frame 3--they are even used as weapons by the Kuze Family Head (Yashuu Kuze), a boss ghost, in Fatal Frame 3. Sure, the murderers in KnS1 also amputated their female victims, but they didn't use the severed limbs for dark purposes (to my knowledge).

    -The focus on the Kagura dance dedicated to Hinna-sama is reminiscent of Fatal Frame 4: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse which had a Kagura dance as a cornerstone of its plot.

    -Ayako carrying out her murders while wearing a Kagura/Noh mask depicting Hinna-sama is rather similar to the Himuro Family Master from Fatal Frame 1, who after a supernatural calamity went mad and killed many in the Himuro Mansion while wearing a demonic Japanese mask.

    I hope you'll find this interesting. I wonder if the developers of KnS2 ever stated in an interview or the like that they were inspired by the Fatal Frame series, or just drew on the same traditional Japanese horror stories. It would be interesting to find out.

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  3. Hi,

    Just stumbled across your summary of Kara no Shoujo 2 from a link on Gareblog, after finishing the first KnS (Thank you Mangagamer.). I'm one of those who knew that Toko was dead by how KnS true ending went, but was still was punched in the face and the gut in how it was revealed reading about it. At least it was not even more devious (Yes, I could actually think of at least one way how the story could have turned the screw even more.).

    I am amused to see one of the few light-hearted moments from the KnS true ending make a reappearance, namely Ayumu, who does help Reiji out in his investigation in KnS 2 after asking if he was looking to hire an assistant in the true ending. IIRC, is she going to Ouba like Yukari? And how many characters from the first KnS make a reappearance?

    Thanks!

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    1. -Is Ayumu going to Ouba like Yukari?

      Yeah, they both study at Ouba. Yukari is one year level above Ayumu.

      -How many characters from the first KnS make a reappearance?

      About 12 I think if you count Touko. Among the returning characters, only Kyouko, Yaginuma, Koharu and Ayumu play significant roles in the story. Natsume got sidelined. Check the character section on the official site at http://www.gungnir.co.jp/innocentgrey/products/pro_vacant/vacant_chara.html for more information.

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